Look at my other message. I was not confused by "pcu". I'm just confused
why you mix 2 cores with 840 PVUs. 2 cores, would be in a worst case
240PVUs. But in your example (70PVU/core) it would be 140.
In your paste, it's stated 12 cores. So you're referring to an hexacore
CPU. 12 cores is a big machine.... if you really need it all, it will in
fact cost money. If you don't, create a smaller virtual machine.
Regards.
Post by Fernando NunesPost by Fernando NunesThe price presented IS for Advanced Enterprise Edition. The edition that
includes everything, including Informix warehouse accelerator, with the
only exception of storage optimization (compression on the "traditional"
database). Then we have some other glitches in the OP message...
Post by Fernando NunesIt mentions 2 core, but the calculation was based on 12 cores... a big
difference. For a 2 cores machine, assuming 70 PVUs each core, it would be
140 PVUs (140 * £384 = 53760)
Post by Fernando Nunes12 cores would be a big machine.
As for support/licensing... You're free to use the software without
support. You "just" don't get technical support and upgrades.
Post by Fernando NunesThere will be a "penalty" for "reinstatement" Not sure how much. You
should contact a sales representative or a partner. But get the correct
product and number of cores.
Post by Fernando NunesRegards
Peter, as far as I know, The IBM Informix Innovator-C Edition (IE) is
still FREE for any use whatsoever, except to redistribute. You can pay for
support (it comes free without support) but that's a flat annual fee and
not dependent on PVUs since IE is limited to a single CPU VP anyway. Here
in the US the support is about $2000 or a bit more, and though the European
pricing is independent if US pricing, it should be about the same give or
take.
Post by Fernando NunesThe pricing you are seeing is for Informix Enterprise Edition (EE) which
is the most expensive (OK except for Advanced Enterprise Edition which
includes the Warehouse Accelerator).
Post by Fernando NunesThere are two Editions in between IE and EE: Express Edition and
Workgroup Edition (WE) which would be substantially less expensive than
Enterprise. WE would be somewhere on the order of five digits (don't have
a price sheet handy).
Post by Fernando NunesYou should contact a UK partner like Ardenta or Oninit UK. They can get
you the correct pricing.
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Post by Fernando NunesJust wondering about licensing / pricing Informix. Annoyingly
Innovator-C (unix and windows) got a hike unless you have a copy of
11.70.fc4 around somewhere.
Post by Fernando NunesAccording to IBM's PVU calc on the UK site, the cost is for 1 pvu, NOT a
block of 10 is £381+vat. Is this a mistake. It makes a 2 core older xeon
840pcu £384k. Half a million $ for a 2 CPU older Xeon machine!!
Post by Fernando NunesThis seems at least 10 times off compared to other database offerings.
Of course nobody even with discounts (which other offerings have as well)
would ever consider Informix.
Post by Fernando NunesD0IJGLL 320,040.00 384,048.00
Processor Value Unit (PVU) Description IBM Informix Advanced
Enterprise Edition CPU Option Processor Value Unit (PVU) License + SW
Subscription & Support 12 Months
Post by Fernando NunesDelete
Processor Value Unit (PVU) details Intel®, Xeon®, 1 or 2 Socket,
Multi-core
Post by Fernando Nunes12 Processor cores
70 PVUs per core
840 total PVUs
Also, PVU comes with 12 mths support. I presume, after a year is up, you
still have the option to not renew maintenance and get support from a 3rd
party BUT still continue to use the database but stay on the version you
are currently on as no updates without subscripton. So effectively it's a
one off cost, not a software rental.
Post by Fernando NunesWhat is the penalty if any for returning once a new version is released
with a desired feature? Or if you it a really bad bug. I would presume
standard PVU prices?
Post by Fernando NunesTIA.
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Thanks Fernando for clearing up purchase/lease and the 2 core calculation.
Unfortunately you cant edit groups.
"It makes a 2 core older xeon 840pcu £384k. Half a million $ for a 2 CPU
older Xeon machine!!"
I guessed it was obvious I was looking at 840pvu and just mixed up the
words core and CPU although my keyboard brain interface or cut paste has
managed to invent a new term - pcu :)
It would be unusual to buy a 2 core CPU if that's still possible (£100)
and run £384k of software on it. Surely this sentence makes a very good
point.
As for compression, MySQL etc all do it for free but perhaps at the
expense of page structure.
I hope IBM comes up with yet another pricing plan for Informix. Surely
they could throw some big data analysis / expert machine at it to work it
out.
Yes, VAR's do discounts depending who you are. Even Oracle customers are
defecting to MySQL / Percona, leaving Microsoft the BI Stack and PostgreSQL
to spatial.
Not played much with MS AlwaysOn server groups yet esp in SQL2014, but if
it works, Madison is not going to be happy. I looks like just 2 dominant
databases will be left standing.
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